Bear
Can you say a little more about the Stats / Comics book?
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On Mar 24, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Bear Braumoeller wrote:

> On Mar 24, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Paul Gronke wrote:
>
>> Unlike Bear, I suspect that few of my students will actually run  
>> statistical procedures after college, and if they do so, it will be  
>> using the program they learn in professional or graduate school.
>>
>> Isn't it the case that we are teaching statistical and reseaech  
>> design reasoning skills, not how to program?
>>
>> I am under no illusions that they will be able to use SDA for much  
>> (though many seem to use it to perform quick and dirty analyses for  
>> papers and settle arguments about public opinion).
>
>
> Yes, absolutely.  When I wrote that "the course is rapidly dominated  
> by R programming tutorials," what I meant was that those end up  
> being the most time-consuming component, not that students somehow  
> fail to learn statistical and research-design reasoning skills at  
> the same time.  In fact, they generally pick up research design/ 
> stats skills far more quickly than the R skills that they need to  
> implement them, which is why I end up having to spend more time on R  
> tutorials than I'd like.
>
>
> Bear F. Braumoeller
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Political Science
> The Ohio State University
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